Over on Amazon, John “Flammo” took up my challenge to get specific about his statements of “inaccuracies” in my sister’s recent book Prophet’s Daughter.Just as I suspected, the supposed “inaccuracies” amounted to nothing but verbal quibbles, misunderstanding of language, and “Flammo’s” own personal incredulity at Erin’s revelations.
One of his examples had to do with an event during the Yellowstone fires of 1988. My sister’s book described the situation thusly:
Mother, Tatiana, and I, along with a couple hundred staff, stayed in the Heart, facing the flames, our faces whipped by hot ashes and an oven like wind (p. 146).
As I recall, we were about one-half mile to a mile away from the fire, not standing close as this statement implies. I don’t remember “our faces whipped by hot ashes and an oven like wind,” though it was warm where we were standing and we could see the flames in the distance.
This is a perfect instance of believer hair-splitting. As you can see from the above photo, taken a few miles from the “heart” the situation was dire at the Ranch in the late summer of 1988, and it’s a matter of public record that nearly a million acres of Yellowstone Park were destroyed that year. As John said, the flames were not imminent. But that’s not the point. Erin did not say how close the flames were, she said they were “facing them.” John admits the flames were visible.
But Erin’s point is primarily that believers thought they could spiritually turn back the fire. It was a dramatic situation, and as you can clearly see from these photos, the local volunteer fire department as well as the Forest Service were on a high state of alert. The praying against the flames went on for several days, and unfortunately I didn’t get photos at the height of it. But let me describe the scene how I remember.
At least 200 people stood with their hands outstretched toward the flames. The smoke was thick and flecks of ash fluttered through the air. My mom had her full spiritual regalia, including her “monstrance,” (fancy glass case for communion wafer), shepherd’s crook, and (get this) the box of my dad’s ashes held high above her head. At times, she had people helping her hold up her arms–since she felt an almost biblical duty to spiritually hold back the fire and protect the promised land. As you can see from the pictures that show praying even under relatively good conditions, mom was so worried about it, she kept people in the Heart long past when firefighters had shifted to precautionary mode.
John “Flammo’s” hair-splitting is equally egregious on other subjects for which I do not have pictures. But I have a very good memory, which corroborates Erin’s thoroughly researched book in nearly every case. Here’s the Amazon thread, so you can see how picayune the discussion is becoming.
Bottom line, Erin’s book stands completely unassailed and unrefuted:
Erin writes, “We had defied convention…to prepare for essentially the end of the world” (p. 2). Yes, we had defied convention, but as Erin later admits some staff didn’t believe the end of the world was at hand or that we were about to be hit by nuclear weapons.
It’s a qualified statement. That’s what the word “essentially” means. A verbal quibble at best. And mom did predict a direct nuclear hit on the ranch, which is why the shelters had concrete-encased blast valves rated for 100-200 psi.
“A “golden age” might come, but in order to reach it we believed we would have to survive the worst weapons of the modern age” (p. 2). Who is “we”? I don’t know anyone who believed that.
Erin refers to numerous ‘dictations’ through Elizabeth Clare Prophet that mentioned this goal specifically. If John didn’t believe this, then he didn’t believe the dictations.
“If the masters were real and could truly see the past and the future, they should be able to give concrete answers” (p. 153). I remember the teaching (and experience) that the masters are real and can see the past, but we were always taught that no one could see the future in pinpoint accuracy because of free will, mitigation of prophecy, and complex causal variables.
Erin makes a conditional statement here. “If the masters were real and could truly see the past and future…” Can John not understand English? She is trying to describe a world view and its implications for people who have never experienced it. Of course not everyone at every level had the same degree of “faith” or expectation of prophecy. But what she describes as the tenor of the CUT culture is wholly accurate.
“El Morya “was her guru, to be given unquestioning obedience, but I also felt that there was a little of her father tied up in him. His sternness was Hans’s sternness. And perhaps El Morya, too, would never give her the approval she wanted” (p. 171). This sounds like conjecture. Mother loved El Morya, and so do I. From early on in the teachings, I experienced El Morya and his great love and understanding. I have trusted few in my life, but I trust El Morya-to this day. And he’s nothing like my dad.
Erin clearly labels this as conjecture. That’s why she uses the word “felt.” She’s expressing her opinion and makes that clear. But she does get to the heart of the matter that “El Morya” as guru was authoritarian, like our grandfather Hans Wulf. It is my opinion that “El Morya” is a figment of Madame Blavatsky, my mom’s, and others’ imagination. But I admit this is my opinion, since I cannot prove a negative (El Morya’s non-existence). John’s opinion about El Morya is an equal measure of conjecture, and therefore equally subjective.
“`It is time,’ Mother said, `to declare the judgment on the United States of America'” (p. 228). Mother always taught us to decree for the judgment of the dark energies working through the physical bodies (and chakras) of people. We were not allowed to call for the judgment of individuals. I believe that Mother was calling for the judgment of the negative energies being projected through all aspects of the United States such as the media, economy, the government, and so forth. Judgment does not mean destruction. It means separating good from evil, and that usually means energies working through someone and something. Corruption in the economy can be “judged” and the economy still left intact. Makes one wonder what’s happening now…
John, whatever you believe she meant, she said physical judgment. I was there, and she said it. A favorite call of hers to make was “I demand the instantaneous and final physical judgment of _________” (Insert name of enemy). All of us heard mom say that on dozens of occasions, on car rides, on walks, and in numerous prayer and clearance sessions. So tell yourself whatever you want about it if it makes you feel any better.
“‘Archangel Michael, let the bombs descend!…I knew that she was no longer talking about spiritual bombs, but physical one” (p. 230). This statement-or should I say conjecture-is completely inconsistent with every decree session I experienced and every fiat I heard Mother make. How did Erin know that she heard Mother correctly or what Mother actually meant?
John, I was there and I can attest to this. I sent out that message verbatim that night on the shelter e-mail network. I wrote down what mom said and typed it out as instructions for each and every one of the other five shelter commanders (I was the commander in shelter #3).
“If she had been a little less in touch with reality and there had been a few more zealots on staff, we might have gone farther than simply praying to bring on a war” (p. 231). Well, it is highly unlikely that this would have happened, and to even suggest it adds a threatening, conditional tone to a premise that is fictional in the first place.
John, apparently you never heard of what happened at Waco? Of course it’s pure speculation, but with that many guns and an upset local population in Paradise Valley, and the involvement of federal ATF agents, you’ve got to admit it was an extremely tense situation. Again, Erin makes it clear she is speculating. Her point stands.